Refuting the Plagiarized Lies of Mr. Anon Nymous PART 5

(ON THE NECESSITY OF THE CHURCH FOR SALVATION)

One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church ( the One True Church)

Anon NymousMarch 25, 2014 at 11:43 PM

Catholic False Doctrine 5
The Roman Catholic Church claim that salvation is only possible through herself.

"There is no salvation outside the church (Roman Catholic Church)." (Pope John Paul II, Radio Message for Francisan Vigil at St Peter's and Assisi, October 3, 1981)

"Salvation is to be found nowhere but in the church (Roman Catholic Church), the strong and effective instrument of salvation is none other than the Roman Pontificate." (Pope Leo XIII, Allocution for the 25th Anniversary of his election, February 20, 1903. (Papal Teachings: The Church, Benedictine Monks of Solesmes, St Paul Editions, Boston, 1962, par. 653)

Again, the Bible exposes this teaching of the Roman Catholic Church as false. Not only that, it is one of the most dangerous doctrines there is. To say that salvation lies only within the Roman Catholic Church is blasphemous against the ONLY ONE who can save us, which is Jesus Christ.

Acts 4:10-12 .....'Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.'

REPLY:

Here we are again in another part of our rebuttal against the plagiarized lies of Mr. Anon Nymous who is trying to deceive others by his plagiarized statements. It is proven in the previous parts that all of his statements are certified lies and hoaxes. In the previous parts of this series, we have exposed his act of plagiarism, his lies in quoting some of our Catholic books, his historical lie and his misrepresented understanding about Catholic dogmas. Again, we will expose another set of his lies to prove that the Catholic Church is truly the bulwark of truth. (1 Tim. 3:15)

Catholic False Doctrine 5
The Roman Catholic Church claim that salvation is only possible through herself.

"There is no salvation outside the church (Roman Catholic Church)." (Pope John Paul II, Radio Message for Francisan Vigil at St Peter's and Assisi, October 3, 1981)


This time, Mr. Anon Nymous misrepresented again the quote to prove that the Catholic Church teaches false doctrine which according to him, “the Church in its own self can save”. The quote again was misquoted. This is the whole statement of Pope John Paul II:

"THE MYSTERY OF SALVATION IS REVEALED TO US AND IS CONTINUED AND ACCOMPLISHED IN THE CHURCH...and from this genuine and single source, like 'humble, useful, precious and chaste' water, it reaches the whole world. Dear young people and members of the faithful, like Brother Francis we have to be conscious and absorb this fundamental and revealed truth, consecrated by tradition: 'There is no salvation outside the Church.' FROM HER ALONE THERE FLOWS SURELY AND FULLY THE LIFE-GIVING FORCE DESTINED IN CHRIST AND IN HIS SPIRIT, TO RENEW THE WHOLE OF HUMANITY, AND THEREFORE DIRECTING EVERY HUMAN BEING TO BECOME A PART OF THE MYSTICAL BODY OF CHRIST." (Pope John Paul II, Radio Message for Franciscan Vigil in St. Peter's and Assisi, October 3, 1981, L'Osservatore Romano, October 12, 1981.)”

The above statement clarifies that the assurance of salvation inside the Church is greater than the outside by stating that by the Church alone, there flows SURELY AND FULLY THE LIFE- GIVING FORCE IN DIRECTING EVERY HUMAN BEING TO BECOME PART OF MYSTICAL BODY OF CHRIST. It does not say the exact plagiarized statement of Mr. anon Nymous by saying that the Church claim that salvation is only possible through herself. On the other hand, the above statement of Blessed Pope John Paul II is not a new doctrine since it was already taught even at the early age of Christianity. Saint Paul said that Christ saves His body:

Ephesians 5:23- NLT [emphasis added] 

For a husband is the head of his wife as Christ is the head of the church. HE IS THE SAVIOR  OF HIS BODY, THE CHURCH.

Saint Paul clarifies that Christ saves His body, the Church which was built on the Rock [Peter] (Matt. 16:18). God wants to save everyone but more specifically He wants to save the Church thus, commissioning the Church to proclaim Christ all over the nations and baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19). The salvation is for everyone through the Church. To proclaim the Salvation for all human beings, God used the Church and not the Bible. THEREFORE, THE CHURCH WAS BUILT TO BECOME THE INSTRUMENT OF SALVATION JUST LIKE HOW OUR APOSTLES AND OUR BLESSED VIRGIN MARY BECAME CO-REDEMPTRIX IN PROCLAIMING THE GOOD NEWS OF REDEMPTION. In fact, the plagiarized statement of Mr. Anon nymous by saying that the “Church claim that salvation is only possible through herself” IS A COMPLETE LIE since we Catholics believe that God is our Savior:

The Catechism of the Catholic Church itself affirms the fact that Jesus saves:

CCC 430:

JESUS MEANS IN HEBREW: "GOD SAVES." At the annunciation, the angel Gabriel gave him the name Jesus as his proper name, which expresses both his identity and his mission.¹⁸ Since God alone can forgive sins, it is God who, in Jesus his eternal Son made man, "will save his people from their sins".¹⁹ in Jesus, God recapitulates all of his history of salvation on behalf of men.

The CCC also says:

CCC 432:

The name "Jesus" signifies that the very name of God is present in the person of his Son, made man for the universal and definitive redemption from sins. IT IS THE DIVINE NAME THAT ALONE BRINGS SALVATION, AND HENCEFORTH ALL CAN INVOKE HIS NAME, FOR JESUS UNITED HIMSELF TO ALL MEN THROUGH HIS INCARNATION, SO THAT "THERE IS NO OTHER NAME UNDER HEAVEN GIVEN AMONG MEN BY WHICH WE MUST BE SAVED.

The Catholic Church accepts the fact that Jesus saves, the only Divine Name that brings Salvation. Therefore, the claim of Mr. Anon Nymous that our doctrine is false falls flat on his face since the Catholic Church never denies Jesus as our Sole Savior.

"Salvation is to be found nowhere but in the church (Roman Catholic Church), the strong and effective instrument of salvation is none other than the Roman Pontificate." (Pope Leo XIII, Allocution for the 25th Anniversary of his election, February 20, 1903. (Papal Teachings: The Church, Benedictine Monks of Solesmes, St Paul Editions, Boston, 1962, par. 653)

Again, the Bible exposes this teaching of the Roman Catholic Church as false. Not only that, it is one of the most dangerous doctrines there is. To say that salvation lies only within the Roman Catholic Church is blasphemous against the ONLY ONE who can save us, which is Jesus Christ.

Acts 4:10-12 .....'Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.'

The above statement does not contradict the Bible at all. In fact, this proves the idiocy of Mr. Anon Nymous because he did not comprehend the statement itself: 

"Salvation is to be found nowhere but in the church (Roman Catholic Church), the strong and effective instrument of salvation is none other than the Roman Pontificate."

Mr. Anon Nymous missed the point of stating the phrase “effective instrument of salvation.” The Pope and the Church are both instruments of salvation and the Church itself is the place where we can find salvation. Saint Paul said:

1 Timothy 3:15- NRSV [emphasis added] 

if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of  God, which is THE CHURCH of the living God, THE PILLAR AND BULWARK OF THE TRUTH.

The Church itself IS THE GROUND, THE PILLAR AND THE BULWARK OF TRUTH. IT IS THE SOURCE OF TRUTH. NOW, LET’S ASK THE BIBLE WHAT IS THIS TRUTH:

John 14:6- NRSV [emphasis added] 

 JESUS SAID TO HIM, “I AM THE WAY, AND THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Jesus is THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. Can you see the word “TRUTH” in that particular verse? Of course, everyone can see it. Jesus is the Truth but the Bible also states something which is even more mysterious: The Bible also says, THE CHURCH IS THE BULWARK AND THE PILLAR OF TRUTH. JESUS IS TRUTH AND THE CHURCH IS THE BULWARK OF TRUTH, THEREFORE THE CHURCH IS THE BULWARK OF JESUS, THE PLACE WHERE WE CAN FIND JESUS. 

The Bible claims that Jesus saves, the source of SALVATION of everyone who believes in Him (Acts 4:12 & John 3:16), the Bible says that Jesus is truth (John 14:6) and the bulwark of truth IS THE CHURCH (1 Tim. 3:15). If we are going to base our faith in the Bible, what would be the conclusion? Well, what’s your decision? On these three points, we can conclude that Jesus as Head resides in His Body, the Church. IN FACT, THE FULLNESS OF CHRIST IS IN THE CHURCH, THUS MAKING THE CHURCH AND CHRIST AS INSEPARABLE MEAN OF SALVATION:

Ephesians 1:22-23 NRSV [emphasis added] 

 And He has put all things under His feet and has made Him [Christ]  THE HEAD OVER ALL THINGS FOR THE CHURCH,  WHICH IS HIS BODY, THE FULLNESS OF HIM WHO FILLS ALL IN ALL.

Basically, Christ will never be a complete one without His body. HIS FULLNESS CAN BE VIVIDLY SEEN BY HIS BODY, AND THIS MYSTICAL BODY OF CHRIST IS NONE OTHER THAN THE CHURCH. WE DO NOT WANT A BEHEADED CHRIST, DO WE? IF WE LOVE CHRIST AS HEAD, THEREFORE WE MUST ALSO LOVE THE CHURCH AS HIS BODY. THESE TWO MUST NOT BE SEPARATED.

There is even more greatness in the Church because it teaches unity with Christ and unity of people and unity with the Father making them One (John 20:21) . Saint Paul said:

1 Corinthians 12:12 –KJV [emphasis added]  

For as the body is one, and hath many members, AND ALL THE MEMBERS OF THAT ONE BODY, BEING MANY, ARE ONE BODY: SO ALSO IS CHRIST.

Saint Paul also continued that everyone needs one another, so as for Christ is the fullness of one complete body, we can see the necessity of the Church in our salvation. Each one of us is necessary. We need Christ but Christ also needs us, because He sees us as brothers and sisters of one complete happy family, the Church (Heb. 2:11). The Bible has clarified it in the verse 21 of the same Chapter of Saint Paul’s epistle to Corinthians:

1 Cor. 12:21 –KJV [emphasis added] 

And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: NOR AGAIN THE HEAD TO THE FEET, I HAVE NO NEED OF YOU.

1 Cor. 12:21- NLT [emphasis added] 

The eye can never say to the hand, “I don’t need you.” THE HEAD CAN’T SAY TO THE FEET, “I DON’T NEED YOU.”

We all know that the single head of this mystical body of Christ is Christ Himself. From that particular verse, we can certainly conclude the fact that Christ needs His Church. He cannot say to us [Church] that He doesn’t need us because it is clear in the Scripture itself.

Colossians 1:18- NLT [emphasis added] 

CHRIST IS ALSO THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH, WHICH IS HIS BODY. He is the beginning, supreme over all who rise from the dead. So he is first in everything.

 The common misconception among our separated brethren including Mr. Anon Nymous is that, they separate Christ and His Church but the Bible contradicts this fallacious idea because the Bible states:

Romans 8: 38-39- NLT [emphasis added] 

And I am convinced that NOTHING CAN EVER SEPARATE US from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord. 

Indeed, Christ also said:

Matthew 28:20- NLT [emphasis added]  

“And be sure of this: I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS, EVEN TO THE END OF THE AGE.”

He is always with the church and no one can separate Christ from His Church, thus making us one with CHRIST AND ONE WITH THE FATHER (Jn. 20:21). This is included in one of the four marks and attributes of the Church. The Church is ONE!

CCC 813:

THE CHURCH IS ONE BECAUSE OF HER SOURCE: "THE HIGHEST EXEMPLAR AND SOURCE OF THIS MYSTERY IS THE UNITY, IN THE TRINITY OF PERSONS, OF ONE GOD, THE FATHER AND THE SON IN THE HOLY SPIRIT." The Church is one because of her founder: for "the Word made flesh, the prince of peace reconciled all men to God by the cross, . . . restoring the unity of all in one people and one body." The Church is one because of her "soul": "It is the Holy Spirit, dwelling in those who believe and pervading and ruling over the entire Church, who brings about that wonderful communion of the faithful and joins them together so intimately in Christ that he is the principle of the Church's unity."Unity is of the essence of the Church.

Now, does the Church condemn those who are outside? Of Course not. The Church also believes in Merciful God who with His Divine Judgment can look upon the heart of everyone according to human’s conscience in doing good things. The Catechism clarifies this doctrine of Extra Ecclessiam nulla salus in the paragraphs 839-848:

CCC 842: 

The Church's bond with non-Christian religions is in the first place the common origin and end of the human race:
All nations form but one community. This is so because all stem from the one stock which God created to people the entire earth, and also because all share a common destiny, namely God. His providence, evident goodness, and saving designs extend to all against the day when the elect are gathered together in the holy city. .    CCC 843: The Catholic Church recognizes in other religions that search, among shadows and images, for the God who is unknown yet near since he gives life and breath and all things and wants all men to be saved. THUS, THE CHURCH CONSIDERS ALL GOODNESS AND TRUTH FOUND IN THESE RELIGIONS AS "A PREPARATION FOR THE GOSPEL AND GIVEN BY HIM WHO ENLIGHTENS ALL MEN THAT THEY MAY AT LENGTH HAVE LIFE.”

The CCC further clarifies:

CCC 847 

This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - THOSE TOO MAY ACHIEVE ETERNAL SALVATION.(lumen gentium)

Another Catholic book states:

“We do not believe, of course, that all non-Catholics go to hell, any more than we believe that just calling oneself a Catholic will get one to heaven. The dictum that “Outside theChurch, there is no salvation,” means no salvation for those who are outside the Church through their own fault. One who has been a Catholic and who deliberately abandons the Church cannot be saved unless he returns... THOSE,HOWEVER, WHO ARE OUTSIDE THE CHURCH THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, AND WHO DO THE BEST THEY CAN ACCORDING TO WHAT THEY KNOW, MAKING GOOD USE OF THE GRACES THAT GOD SURELY WILL GIVE THEM IN THE VIEW OF THEIR GOOD WILL- THEY CAN BE SAVED.” (p.175, The Faith Explained- 3^rd edition. Fr. Trese, Leo J.)  

That’s how merciful the Church is because of the truth that God is merciful too. The Church has this doctrine because it is not asked to judge and condemn those people outside who are innocently ignorant about what truth is. Saint Paul said:

1 Corinthians 5:12-13- NIV [emphasis added] 

 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?  GOD WILL JUDGE THOSE OUTSIDE.

Is the Adventist church doing this? I don’t think so. Every time we look upon Adventist websites, they keep on attacking our doctrines and condemning us as enemies of God and Satanic. That’s how they condemn and judge us by their malicious minds and by their prejudiced conscience. This contradicts the Bible, what do you think?

Before I end this part 5 of our series, allow me to quote one verse in Paul’s epistle to Philemon:

Philemon 1:19- NLT [emphasis added] 

I, Paul, write this with my own hand: I will repay it. AND I WON'T MENTION THAT YOU OWE ME YOUR VERY SOUL!

If Philemon owed Saint Paul (a priest and a member of the Church) for his salvation, how much more we owe the Church in its contribution in proclaiming the Gospel, in building our civilization, in contributing advancement in Science and Philosophy and even in preserving and compiling the Bible!  IS IT HARD TO SAY “THANK YOU” MR. ANON NYMOUS?